Hi all, just wondering if anyone has experience off roading with full time 4wd ( the jeep version, its called Quadra Trac)? is it up to the task or is it just awd by another name. Any guidance appreciated.
My 97 ZJ had it with a LSD. It was 4 all time, then high and low. For what I did around the island it seemed to work pretty good. Never got stuck because of it, got stuck for other reasons though :)
I had a 97 ZJ as well. The TSI model is just badging and rims. A lot of people do transfer case swaps for better lockers and whatnot. You can only put lockers in either the front or rear, can't remember which it is. But you can do just fine dropping it into 4Low and good tires. Depends how hardcore you want to go.
Thanks for the info. I'm looking for a beater that I can learn some mechanics on, and off road with out fear of damaging my jku. Anything to keep busy in the pandemic!
I just purchased a '00 WJ Grand a couple weeks ago for a comfy winter beater. Has the Quadra-Trac 2 (full time 4wd and 4lo). Totally stock its been pretty impressive so far.
The full time 4wd seems to be really good at kicking in and out when needed, and if it's really gnarly locking it into 4lo works like a traditional transfer case.
I've been pleasantly surprised with how it does.
I also thought it would suck, the normal Jeep guys seem to talk garbage about it but so far I have found it quite useful. Even with over 300,000km my transfer case clutch pack seems to engage and disengage just peachy.
My plan is still to swap to an NP231 from an XJ at some point, but for now the quadra trac seems to be just fine.
I think it's manufacturers or eras of the transfer case.
The np231 is lighter, comes from XJs and possibly TJs, has slightly different options than the np242 which is more common, and traditionally in the 4.0 ZJs. Still has similar selections though.
I have also heard the 242 is a great option, I may go that route and do a proper Selec-Trac swap instead of 231.
I hear there is also HD versions of both the 231 and the 242 but they seem to be rare/pricey.
All new to me, but this Jeep stuff is great! So much information and support out there, even for a less popular model like my WJ. Coming from the Suzuki world where alot of stuff is custom/trial and error it's very refreshing.
That's funny because I always thought my ZJ lacked in parts but the WJ is a great platform and has a good amount of options too. Smoother on road ride and offroad options. I liked the size for sleeping in for someone my size and the fact that overall you don't care how it looks at the end of the day.
If I remember correctly, the WJ and ZJ transfer cases may not be interchangeable. Great Facebook groups for those two vehicles though. Learned a lot that way.
This makes me miss bashing my ZJ around the island!
What's the vehicle?
My 97 ZJ had it with a LSD. It was 4 all time, then high and low. For what I did around the island it seemed to work pretty good. Never got stuck because of it, got stuck for other reasons though :)
It's a 97 Grand Cherokee TSI (I think its TSI).
I had a 97 ZJ as well. The TSI model is just badging and rims. A lot of people do transfer case swaps for better lockers and whatnot. You can only put lockers in either the front or rear, can't remember which it is. But you can do just fine dropping it into 4Low and good tires. Depends how hardcore you want to go.
Thanks for the info. I'm looking for a beater that I can learn some mechanics on, and off road with out fear of damaging my jku. Anything to keep busy in the pandemic!
I just purchased a '00 WJ Grand a couple weeks ago for a comfy winter beater. Has the Quadra-Trac 2 (full time 4wd and 4lo). Totally stock its been pretty impressive so far.
The full time 4wd seems to be really good at kicking in and out when needed, and if it's really gnarly locking it into 4lo works like a traditional transfer case.
I've been pleasantly surprised with how it does.
Thanks for the info. I'm surprised at the positive comments. I thought it would be a poor setup, but I stand corrected.
cheers,
Llew
I also thought it would suck, the normal Jeep guys seem to talk garbage about it but so far I have found it quite useful. Even with over 300,000km my transfer case clutch pack seems to engage and disengage just peachy.
My plan is still to swap to an NP231 from an XJ at some point, but for now the quadra trac seems to be just fine.
if you swap to a 231 does that make it part time 4wd with a 2wd option? Also, what's the difference between the np231 and nv231?
Yes the 231 lets you lock into 2wd, 4wd high, and 4wd low. No more 4wd all time BS. Plus way more aftermarket support.
As far as I understand there is no difference between the p and the v, just different manufacturers or something?
I think it's manufacturers or eras of the transfer case.
The np231 is lighter, comes from XJs and possibly TJs, has slightly different options than the np242 which is more common, and traditionally in the 4.0 ZJs. Still has similar selections though.
I have also heard the 242 is a great option, I may go that route and do a proper Selec-Trac swap instead of 231.
I hear there is also HD versions of both the 231 and the 242 but they seem to be rare/pricey.
All new to me, but this Jeep stuff is great! So much information and support out there, even for a less popular model like my WJ. Coming from the Suzuki world where alot of stuff is custom/trial and error it's very refreshing.
That's funny because I always thought my ZJ lacked in parts but the WJ is a great platform and has a good amount of options too. Smoother on road ride and offroad options. I liked the size for sleeping in for someone my size and the fact that overall you don't care how it looks at the end of the day.
If I remember correctly, the WJ and ZJ transfer cases may not be interchangeable. Great Facebook groups for those two vehicles though. Learned a lot that way.
This makes me miss bashing my ZJ around the island!