Generally yes, getting from Dumont to Nanaimo Lakes Rd (which could lead us to extension) would be a pretty easy run but the last time I was out there they had everything tank trapped to the point where there was no chance of getting through. Unless I can make a new discovery between now and then, I'm not sure how to make that connection anymore. It's been a month or so since I checked and it's amazing how quickly things change so I might consider taking a run up to Nanaimo Lakes for a little evaluation.
Sweet... possibly head through the back side of Boomerang and then do some exploring for the day.
Larry... I know you mentioned Dumont but I can't help but wonder if we might have a little more fun exploring the extension area in a little more depth...
Pardon my ignorence beer-n-meat as I'm new here too, but until you jump a Suby at 160kph on a logging with an old Pepsi sign as a skid plate, you don't know sh*t! haha. j/k.
I would excuse your ignorence but you just can't seem to learn that the proper way to overcome obsticles (including mud holes) is to take flight and land on the other side! But of course, you would never have that capibility with that sh*tty, obsolete, rock crawling, solid front axle set up so maybe it's best you stick to your wide tires lol.
There's a reason IFS is used on cars - comfort. Aside from that (and smoother landings after going airborne)... I can't really think of any reason IFS would be better off road.. but then again most of us aren't pro enough to do our off roading at 160kph while airborne and making perfect damage free landings without even wearing out our ball joints so this thread may not apply to us anyhow.
There was a statement made about off road rally trucks with IFS - true, but obviously heavily built and demanding different performance aspects. They are all about speed and soft landings but realistically that's not how most of us on the island drive off road - if we did your argument would make sense. We generally off road at reasonably low speeds around here and do a lot of crawling etc. Now with that being said, take that inferior rally truck and attempt to climb obstacles at low speed - performance would likely suffer and IFS would not be doing it any favors. I guess it all boils down to build quality and the intent of your adventures. I can see how IFS would be suitable for those who like to go break neck speeds and do jumps etc, but I truly believe most of us would benefit more from a solid front axle instead of the alternative. I say this because when I go wheeling, I constantly see IFS struggling slightly more over obstacles in comparison to me (comparing a 4-runner with the same amount of lift and the same tire size - so it's as close to apples to apples as I can get with two different vehicles). One important thing to remember is that you don't have to be a rock crawler to use articulation to your advantage... it comes into play with every obstacle you cross - Guru; you make it sound like you only need to articulate when rock crawling.
Now without making up false facts and saying that IFS is tougher (I've had opposite experiences) and ironically enough with one of the same vehicles Guru noted earlier in the discussion. I use to off road in a Blazer with IFS - what a piece of sh*t. Torsion bars, ball joints etc. wore out every time I took it off the pavement. Not only that, it only went half the places my Jeep does. From my experiences, the when I drove a Blazer with IFS the tow strap always seemed to be hooked to the front of my rig - now that I drive a Jeep I no longer have that problem. We all learn from our experiences; this is where mine have gotten me.
Very nice - Well done. I've always been a Jeep guy but I have to admit, I'm a fan of this Yota.
Generally yes, getting from Dumont to Nanaimo Lakes Rd (which could lead us to extension) would be a pretty easy run but the last time I was out there they had everything tank trapped to the point where there was no chance of getting through. Unless I can make a new discovery between now and then, I'm not sure how to make that connection anymore. It's been a month or so since I checked and it's amazing how quickly things change so I might consider taking a run up to Nanaimo Lakes for a little evaluation.
Sweet... possibly head through the back side of Boomerang and then do some exploring for the day.
Larry... I know you mentioned Dumont but I can't help but wonder if we might have a little more fun exploring the extension area in a little more depth...
Pardon my ignorence beer-n-meat as I'm new here too, but until you jump a Suby at 160kph on a logging with an old Pepsi sign as a skid plate, you don't know sh*t! haha. j/k.
I would excuse your ignorence but you just can't seem to learn that the proper way to overcome obsticles (including mud holes) is to take flight and land on the other side! But of course, you would never have that capibility with that sh*tty, obsolete, rock crawling, solid front axle set up so maybe it's best you stick to your wide tires lol.
There's a reason IFS is used on cars - comfort. Aside from that (and smoother landings after going airborne)... I can't really think of any reason IFS would be better off road.. but then again most of us aren't pro enough to do our off roading at 160kph while airborne and making perfect damage free landings without even wearing out our ball joints so this thread may not apply to us anyhow.
There was a statement made about off road rally trucks with IFS - true, but obviously heavily built and demanding different performance aspects. They are all about speed and soft landings but realistically that's not how most of us on the island drive off road - if we did your argument would make sense. We generally off road at reasonably low speeds around here and do a lot of crawling etc. Now with that being said, take that inferior rally truck and attempt to climb obstacles at low speed - performance would likely suffer and IFS would not be doing it any favors. I guess it all boils down to build quality and the intent of your adventures. I can see how IFS would be suitable for those who like to go break neck speeds and do jumps etc, but I truly believe most of us would benefit more from a solid front axle instead of the alternative. I say this because when I go wheeling, I constantly see IFS struggling slightly more over obstacles in comparison to me (comparing a 4-runner with the same amount of lift and the same tire size - so it's as close to apples to apples as I can get with two different vehicles). One important thing to remember is that you don't have to be a rock crawler to use articulation to your advantage... it comes into play with every obstacle you cross - Guru; you make it sound like you only need to articulate when rock crawling.
Now without making up false facts and saying that IFS is tougher (I've had opposite experiences) and ironically enough with one of the same vehicles Guru noted earlier in the discussion. I use to off road in a Blazer with IFS - what a piece of sh*t. Torsion bars, ball joints etc. wore out every time I took it off the pavement. Not only that, it only went half the places my Jeep does. From my experiences, the when I drove a Blazer with IFS the tow strap always seemed to be hooked to the front of my rig - now that I drive a Jeep I no longer have that problem. We all learn from our experiences; this is where mine have gotten me.