It is a site for whoever wants to post on whatever topic.....from newbie to extreme......from logging road exploring trips to tree rubbing. Who cares??? I like the harder stuff and others may like the mellower stuff or whatever they are comfortable or their rig is capable of.
I wouldnt say it is just a newbie site, without having others that have knowledge and experience no one will learn.
It is a place for people to find others that like wheeling..... all levels of it.
I would have liked to try and build the exo myself but with a 1 year old and nap times, any spare time I have I cant be making noise in the garage.....kinda frustrating. I had Karnage build the exo because I couldnt beat the quality for the price. I am really happy with how he built the internal X brace, I trust his work and the strength of how it was done which makes me feel better when my older daughter is riding shotgun out wheeling.
Ryan is a little hard to get a hold of at times but I think that is mainly due to how busy he is, and if you want stuff done show up at the shop and get in line with money waiting.....he gets all sorts of calls and people asking for prices that dont pan out into jobs for him and that just wastes his time......money at the door talks. I talked with him at the shop a month prior about my plans, I got my cash lined up then came in with a deposit and he started a week later.
2K on a bumper, ouch.....must be an ARB....those shipping costs are killer, I am sure it will be pretty nice though.....is this for your 3rd gen??
Well I have been running the 4Runner and it has been doing awesome, really happy with it.
I got ahold of Ryan at Karnage and had him build a great exocage for it that incorporates an internal X-brace. He did a really good job and an adult can actually sit somewhat comfortably in the back.....an adult could never sit comfortable back there anyways unless it was a midget. It makes me a little more comfortable when taking my daughter out wheeling.
It has been nice to not be worried about the rear windows, and it has proved very useful in a few deep washouts and tight trails.....proven by the rubbed off paint and scratches in the metal of the exo.
IFS has its place....for having a nice ride on and offroad (loggoing roads) and mellow wheeling. Yes you can lift them but this just leads to problems with suspension, alignment and blowing through CVs. You can argue the pro's of IFS all you want but there is a reason anyone who does any serious wheeling has a straight axle built rig, it will simply last longer, have less breakdowns and will get you farther than an IFS rig. Leaf springs can be built safe and provide great flex....change this to a linked suspension and it is even better. I guess the thousands of people that do serious wheeling must be wrong.
Back to your first question in your first post.....why does every manufacturer on the planet use IFS???......because every soccer mom and yuppie wants to have 4wheel drive for the snow or a dirt road and not feel like they are on a dirt road, they want comfort, they want to feel badass. These are the people that are buying so this is what the companies are producing.......
It is a site for whoever wants to post on whatever topic.....from newbie to extreme......from logging road exploring trips to tree rubbing. Who cares??? I like the harder stuff and others may like the mellower stuff or whatever they are comfortable or their rig is capable of.
I wouldnt say it is just a newbie site, without having others that have knowledge and experience no one will learn.
It is a place for people to find others that like wheeling..... all levels of it.
Thanks Welshy
I would have liked to try and build the exo myself but with a 1 year old and nap times, any spare time I have I cant be making noise in the garage.....kinda frustrating. I had Karnage build the exo because I couldnt beat the quality for the price. I am really happy with how he built the internal X brace, I trust his work and the strength of how it was done which makes me feel better when my older daughter is riding shotgun out wheeling.
Ryan is a little hard to get a hold of at times but I think that is mainly due to how busy he is, and if you want stuff done show up at the shop and get in line with money waiting.....he gets all sorts of calls and people asking for prices that dont pan out into jobs for him and that just wastes his time......money at the door talks. I talked with him at the shop a month prior about my plans, I got my cash lined up then came in with a deposit and he started a week later.
2K on a bumper, ouch.....must be an ARB....those shipping costs are killer, I am sure it will be pretty nice though.....is this for your 3rd gen??
Well I have been running the 4Runner and it has been doing awesome, really happy with it.
I got ahold of Ryan at Karnage and had him build a great exocage for it that incorporates an internal X-brace. He did a really good job and an adult can actually sit somewhat comfortably in the back.....an adult could never sit comfortable back there anyways unless it was a midget. It makes me a little more comfortable when taking my daughter out wheeling.
It has been nice to not be worried about the rear windows, and it has proved very useful in a few deep washouts and tight trails.....proven by the rubbed off paint and scratches in the metal of the exo.
IFS has its place....for having a nice ride on and offroad (loggoing roads) and mellow wheeling. Yes you can lift them but this just leads to problems with suspension, alignment and blowing through CVs. You can argue the pro's of IFS all you want but there is a reason anyone who does any serious wheeling has a straight axle built rig, it will simply last longer, have less breakdowns and will get you farther than an IFS rig. Leaf springs can be built safe and provide great flex....change this to a linked suspension and it is even better. I guess the thousands of people that do serious wheeling must be wrong.
Back to your first question in your first post.....why does every manufacturer on the planet use IFS???......because every soccer mom and yuppie wants to have 4wheel drive for the snow or a dirt road and not feel like they are on a dirt road, they want comfort, they want to feel badass. These are the people that are buying so this is what the companies are producing.......
This whole thread is ===> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg_8knBHEyw